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Please buy a new PC

Discussion in 'General Computer Discussions' started by amusicsite, 19 Oct 2015.

  1. amusicsite

    amusicsite dn ʎɐʍ sᴉɥ┴ Staff Member

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  2. beanz

    beanz Staff Member Staff Member

    Sorry manufacturers - if anything, I'm thinking of simply reducing by one not replacing or increasing!
     
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  3. Ha ha!

    I have just bought a replacement battery and a 128 GB SSD for my 7 year old Dell laptop. Why should I 'upgrade' to a new machine when spending less than £60 on the old one has made it much better than it was before and perfectly adequate for my needs?
     
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  4. beanz

    beanz Staff Member Staff Member

    I am still musing on an ssd - it's the most likely upgrade I will go for. Other than that, in my case I think it would take a huge advance in computers now before I would go out and replace a perfectly good computer that does everything I need it to. I have enough spare drives, a couple of monitors and a spare base unit. Rather save the money!
     
  5. amusicsite

    amusicsite dn ʎɐʍ sᴉɥ┴ Staff Member

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    I got my new computer 6 months ago upgrading from an intel core duo to i7 quad which I hope will do me for the next 10 years or more. So I'm not going to help their stats.
     
  6. I am enjoying the improved speed of my machine. It now comes out of hibernation in 20 seconds and has an internet connection before another 10 seconds have elapsed. Not a tablet-like wake-up time but quick enough now not to annoy me. With the old slow HDD, it took at least twice as long and that WAS irritatingly slow.

    I managed to do a full Malwarebytes scan in 9 minutes, which was many times faster than previously.

    A full Avast a/v scan seemed to be 2-3 times as quick.

    Applications are noticeably quicker to open and switch between.

    The thing I really like is no longer having to be gentle with the laptop for fear of killing the storage device. I have seen enough laptop HDDs fail to have formerly been paranoid about the issue. Now, I can just shut the laptop's lid and toss it to one side on the sofa!
     
  7. nigel-yz1

    nigel-yz1 Well-Known Geek

    No thanks, I'll stick with buying second hand desktops from ebay.
     
  8. swee'pea99

    swee'pea99 Active Geek

    Yeah, I think they're flogging a dead horse there.

    "We want to let them know how much better today's PCs are than the PCs they're using," said Steven Fund, Intel's chief marketing officer. I'm sure they are, Steve, but I don't give a flying one. As I said on another thread, while googling 'do I actually need a graphics card' [one comment] said something like 'If you need to do something like CAD or 3D modelling or gaming, then yes; but if all you want to do is a bit of word processing and looking at funny videos of cats, then no' - and I thought: that's me!

    I wouldn't dream of buying a new PC. What the hell would I do with it? Exactly what I do now. But with £500 less in my pocket. No thanks, Steve.
     
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  9. beanz

    beanz Staff Member Staff Member

    Same here. My computing needs for having 'more powerful this' or 'faster that' have actually diminished over time. I've thought about new gear from time to time and have got as far as doing a fair bit of research, but came to the conclusion that my current pc and laptop both do graphics work and crunch video projects fast enough for me. If / when they break I will probably replace them with better spec and yet (hopefully) cheaper models because that's what I will likely find in the shops by then. Until then, the wallet stays clamped shut!
     
  10. amusicsite

    amusicsite dn ʎɐʍ sᴉɥ┴ Staff Member

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    My new system does not have a graphics card. I went for an Intel i7-4790S CPU and so far have done most things without any problems. I've played the latest Unreal Tournament beta, played around with some game editors, run 3D graphics applications and video editing. So I would go along with what they said with a little modification....

    If you have a good processor you don't need a graphics card unless you want to play high end games in full quality or do some advanced 3D modelling.

    The on chip graphics capabilities of the latest processors are pretty good and most people would not need an extra graphics card. My plan was to see how it got on without one and adding a graphics card in the future could extend the life of the computer if I need extra power in the future. So far I've not needed to think about adding one. I'd recommend getting better CPU, more memory and SSD hard drives to speed up old machines rather than a new one or upgrading the graphics card.
     
  11. fossyant

    fossyant Active Geek

    My lad has a i7 4790k on water cooling and we haven't tried over clocking yet. The case is seriously cool and the Nvidia GTX970 doesn't need to spin up its fans often. It runs all games in top resolution.

    That's a fast machine with SSD and 16gb ram
     
  12. amusicsite

    amusicsite dn ʎɐʍ sᴉɥ┴ Staff Member

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    He in lies the problem... They are trying to get everyone to buy a new computer now but that's only a short term fix. If everyone did get a nice new i3-i7 systems now it's probably going to be good enough for them to still be using decades from now. The hay days of everyone buying a new computer every couple of years is over, they are now a utility that will be replaced only if it breaks.
     
  13. amusicsite

    amusicsite dn ʎɐʍ sᴉɥ┴ Staff Member

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    http://www.zdnet.com/article/more-t...old-and-theres-little-reason-to-replace-them/

    I've often thought this. Yer if you play high end games or do some serious number crunching you will see the advantages of buying a new high end machine. Yet a cheap PC, especially if rammed full of crapware will not really speed up common tasks like office and browsing apps. Also computers, if treated well, should last a good 10-15 years then you might as well stick with the 3-5 year old machine until there is a real change.

    There are a few things I think that could make a new entry level computer attractive. Firstly get them quieter. You can get some quite decent fanless computers these days that could cope with basic tasks and I think this will develop more in the future. Second something like the memristor could replace the space needed for internal storage and maybe even replace the internal hard drive with one block of memory. Along with the CPU finally starting to look like a real system on a chip then the overall size of a machine could drastically reduce. So if you replaced your machine now you would almost get like for like upgrade but if you waited 3-5 years you could get something much more lean, power efficient and smaller.
     
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