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Can I change tv's default screen format?

Discussion in 'Audio Visual and Digital Home' started by swee'pea99, 19 Mar 2015.

  1. swee'pea99

    swee'pea99 Active Geek

    It's the one I've been going on about in the HDMI thread - this'un here - well, I've now got it working fine and even just via SCART it's pretty damn fine. (As an aside, I changed from the cheap SCART cable it came with to a costly one I got cheap off fleabay, and it made a massive improvement.) The only problem now is that every time it comes on, it comes on in widescreen mode, which leaves a 1" black strip top & bottom - on a 17" screen, that's quite a loss. It's easy enough to change to 'full-screen', which is what I want...but it would be good to reset somewhere so that it comes on in full-screen as default. But I'm damned if I can find out how to do it. Just thought I'd post on the off-chance that someone might know - not necessarily on this model, but any telly...it might at least point me in the right direction. (All the Display settings you can adjust are for the usual suspects - brightness, contrast, colour, sharpness and the like - nothing for format.)

    Thanks for any ideas.
     
  2. 0-markymark-0

    0-markymark-0 Über Geek

    On my old tv I went into picture settings and turned off the 'auto size format' which basically resized it everytine I switched it on. Did the trick as I set it once and never needed to touch it again.

    You could try altering the settings on the device you are watching (sky etc) as they can often output at dufferent ratios.
     
  3. amusicsite

    amusicsite dn ʎɐʍ sᴉɥ┴ Staff Member

    Location:
    UK
    Some TVs have a frustrating lack of controlling things like start up options, especially older TVs. Usually I'll download the manual and read through that. If it's not mentioned in there then it's probably not a feature.
     
  4. swee'pea99

    swee'pea99 Active Geek

    Thanks. I checked the options and there's no 'auto-size format', but this from the manual - "This TV set is also equipped with automatic switching which will select the correct-screen format, provided the specific signals are transmitted with the programmes." - makes me suspect that it's set as the default and cannot be switched off...which is probably the root of my problem. No solution on the box either - that only offers options like widescreen or 4:3, and is set to widescreen, which is correct for this telly. (The thing that baffles me slightly is that since the box's output is 'widescreen' - presumably 16:9 - and it's a widescreen telly, you'd think they were made for each other...but instead, selecting 'widescreen' on the tv results in this letterbox-stylie format, and only by selecting 'full-screen' can you get the black strips to go away.)
     
  5. amusicsite

    amusicsite dn ʎɐʍ sᴉɥ┴ Staff Member

    Location:
    UK
    16:9 is not the only widescreen format...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspect_ratio_(image)

    In the manual it says there are a number of different widescreen options.

    4:3: The picture is reproduced in 4:3 format and a black band is displayed on either side
    of the picture.

    Zoom 14:9: The picture is enlarged to 14:9 format, a thin black band remains on both sides of
    the picture.

    Zoom 16:9: The picture is enlarged to 16:9 format.This mode is recommended when displaying
    pictures which have black bands at the top and bottom (letterbox format).

    Subtitle Zoom: This mode is used to display 4:3 pictures using the full surface of the screen leaving
    the sub-titles visible.

    Super Wide: This mode is used to display 4:3 pictures using the full surface of the screen by
    enlarging the sides of the picture.

    Widescreen: This mode restores the correct proportions of images transmitted in 16:9.
    Note: If you display a 4:3 picture in thid mode, it will be enlarged horizontally.

    Fullscreen: This mode displays images in full screen.

    I guess you want Fullscreen if you don't want the bands.
     
  6. 0-markymark-0

    0-markymark-0 Über Geek

    Are you watching through a freeview player or an HD box (virgin, sky etc)? They may also have an output which you can set. If it's tv through the aerial, it appears you are stuffed!
     
  7. swee'pea99

    swee'pea99 Active Geek

    I'm watching through a freeview PVR, but like I say, it offers no options beyond the standard 4:3, 16:9 and so on, so I've set 'Widescreen' as the default, which shows up on the telly as a sort of letterboxy format, unless I select Fullscreen, in which case it does - fill the screen (and without any distortion, so far as I can see).
     
  8. 0-markymark-0

    0-markymark-0 Über Geek

    So, confused then. Set the PVR to a format you;re happy with and then, well, you should be happy?
     
  9. swee'pea99

    swee'pea99 Active Geek

    Yeah, but I can't though. Because even if I set the PVR to the best available option - widescreen - the telly still displays it as kind of widescreen/letterbox. The only combo that works is

    PVR - widescreen + tv - Fullscreen

    But left to its own devices, every time I turn it on, it's set to

    PVR - widescreen + tv "automatic switching which will select the correct-screen format," which = not-Fullscreen, but kind of widescreen/letterbox

    until I override on the tv, and reset it to Fullscreen, which is fine till I turn it off and turn it back on, at which point it (the tv) will have reverted to widescreen/letterbox.

    What I'd like is to reset the tv so that when it comes on, it comes on in Fullscreen mode. But it looks like that's not possible.

    Thanks anyway.
     
  10. EddyP

    EddyP Well-Known Geek

    I have this problem. When I'm watching stuff through my laptop on Netflix, my TV decides to relegate it to a square within the frame of the TV. It's like watching stuff through a letter box...I need a HDMI cable.