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Discussion in 'Internet, Web and Social Networking' started by amusicsite, 17 Aug 2015.

  1. amusicsite

    amusicsite dn ʎɐʍ sᴉɥ┴ Staff Member

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  2. welsh dragon

    welsh dragon Active Geek

    I love firefox. I use it all the time. I hate the others especially when I look at say amazon, then to go say yahoo and bob's your uncle, there is an advert for the things I was looking at on amazon. My browser is inundated with rubbish. Firefox is great.
     
  3. amusicsite

    amusicsite dn ʎɐʍ sᴉɥ┴ Staff Member

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    Yer, it's one of the things I hate about 'targeted advertising'. They are extremely lazy. You looked at X so we will show you Y type stuff. They are collecting all this info to 'profile' us but can't really afford the processing power to crunch all the data to make it useful for the millions or billions of users they have. I've always thought the much better way would be to target adverts to the content of the page you are on. i.e. If you are on this site advertise PS4, Windows, Tech toys.... if you are on a fashion site then pimp you shoes, cloths and the like.

    I'm convinced they only really collect the data so they can make nice pie charts that show x% of people are male and y% of people are under 25 type stuff. Not that knowing that makes you any better positioned to target your audience. The internet could work just as easily without tracking you all the time and hopefully it will one day become like buying a magazine where you will get general adverts and the advertisers will just have to guess if you have read it or not...
     
  4. welsh dragon

    welsh dragon Active Geek

    Your right. Its the same old story, the more info and stuff they have, the more they want. They can't possibly use it all.

    they don't seem to realise that the more they target people, the more annoyed they will become and then they will use sites like firefox, duckduckgo. Then they will be losing the ability to follow and annoy people rather than increasing they're influence.
     
  5. andyfraser

    andyfraser Active Geek

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    I'd rather have targeted ads (i.e. cycling or tech) than ads that have zero relevance (i.e. woman's shoes). I'd rather have ad supported sites than have to pay for sites I use. I'd stop using most sites if I had to pay. Paying for sites could end up costing a lot. Therefore I don't mind sharing some information in exchange for useful "free" stuff.

    Amazon are one of the worst for irrelevant ads. They target well enough but will advertise something I've already bought! I'm not going to buy it again.

    I don't mind banner ads and sidebar ads but if I see a full screen ad before I can get to the content I stop using that site and tell them why. Some sites don't quite go as far as full screen ads but do overdo it. I stop visiting those sites too.

    One problem is with full screen ads, video ads and sites overdoing it the ad industry could drive people to use ad blockers. Ad blockers worry me. If enough people use ad blockers then some sites may disappear or start charging and that could ruin the web. Where sites do ads right (i.e. they're not in the way of the content, not adding too much time to page load times and not annoying or making noise) I feel it's wrong to consume their content without seeing their ads.

    If I was to use an ad blocker I'd want to be able to blacklist sites that I find egregious rather than have all sites blacklisted leaving me to whitelist sites. They may already work that way. I should probably check that out.
     
  6. amusicsite

    amusicsite dn ʎɐʍ sᴉɥ┴ Staff Member

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    I think most of the problem with adverts is lazy website owners. Take for example Amazon adverts. You do have a lot of control over what they show on a site. You could add one on here that just shows tech stuff, even get it to say only show physics books in the physics sub-topic. Most people just copy and paste the default 'show targeted adverts' code with no thought about what it may show.

    Back in the 'good' old days of print and you would have an army of people who would phone up people and chase down good regular advertisers who would then run their adverts in a publication for 6 months - a year knowing they would get a good return on investment over all the publications they advertised in. Whereas nowadays it seems to be more a case of spend 5 minutes setting up an advertising plug-in and hope it makes some money.

    I think it will settle down in the end... The paying for websites don't seem to work. The Times and a few other old school brands seem to have tried it but they mostly work by giving it away free to their print subscribers for free. I don't think they will continue once they loose the print subscribers. In the end it will settle down to the big sites that get the right mix of adverts and content and the little people who don't want to make money off their sites. Considering it only really costs less than a meal for two to put up a website and keep it online for a year then it's not hard to make enough to break even. The problem comes when you want to make more money. Typically it's a case of spending a fortune on Google adverts to get onto page one of their listings and then filling the site with adverts to pay for the self publicity. The only winner is Google...

    Then again the dark future, if not already here is that Facebook wins and everyone uses that for everything!!! :sick:
     
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  7. CyclingNews.com is now *very* annoying. They have started displaying auto-playing video ads with audio enabled, which is unacceptable to me. The ads being LOUD is even more unacceptable. The last straw for me yesterday was to have 2 separate LOUD auto-playing ads start up. one about 0.5 sec later than the other, and displaying the same ad! I had 'twins' shouting over the top of each other as I scrambled for the volume control ... :thumbsdown:
     
  8. Ah - I have the unwanted content blocked in Opera but not in Firefox. I'll soon rectify that!

    This is so counterproductive. If they wanted to waste my bandwidth on silent video, fair enough - I have no bandwidth limits and a fast connection, but I am not going to let people shout at me.
     
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  9. amusicsite

    amusicsite dn ʎɐʍ sᴉɥ┴ Staff Member

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  10. amusicsite

    amusicsite dn ʎɐʍ sᴉɥ┴ Staff Member

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  11. amusicsite

    amusicsite dn ʎɐʍ sᴉɥ┴ Staff Member

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  12. amusicsite

    amusicsite dn ʎɐʍ sᴉɥ┴ Staff Member

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  13. amusicsite

    amusicsite dn ʎɐʍ sᴉɥ┴ Staff Member

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  14. amusicsite

    amusicsite dn ʎɐʍ sᴉɥ┴ Staff Member

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    If you want to try it on Linux and your software center is not updating yet.

    https://itsfoss.com/firefox-quantum-ubuntu/

    Download the link, uncompress it and click on the firefox app, after closing your main one, then you can try it. Does indeed feel much less laggy.