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Who rarely turns their PC/Laptop off?

Discussion in 'General Computer Discussions' started by MontyVeda, 15 Apr 2015.

  1. MontyVeda

    MontyVeda Active Geek

    Just ordered a new PC and was just thinking that when it comes I'm going to be really good and do things like regularly clean out the dust and maybe even turn it off every night... before wondering how long that would last.

    My old PC died at the end of last year after five years of reliable service... and i mean five years. I'd reboot every month or so and i reckon the longest it's been off for is a week, and the second longest, maybe overnight once or twice. I never even think of turning it off until it gets a bit sluggish, or crashes... but is it just me?

    I've been using a laptop for the last 6 months and at first, i turned it of every night but that soon became hardly ever too

    does anyone else hardly ever turn their PC off?
  2. drummerbod

    drummerbod Active Geek

    Southampton - UK
    Same... rarely turn mine off ie Shutdown. I just put it into Sleep.
  3. MontyVeda

    MontyVeda Active Geek

    mine doesn't even go to sleep :ohmy:

    can't help but wonder though... am i going to shorten its life by not letting it get regular rest, are are these things made to be constantly running?
  4. I hibernate mine. (Or is that sleep?)

    The one that saves everything to HDD and restores back to that next time. It takes about 30 seconds instead of more than 2 minutes to boot from off. I was quite pleased with that until I got my tablet and smartphone and was reminded how quickly devices can be brought back to life if designed to!

    PS Think of the damn planet. Even if you can afford the wasted electricity, the atmosphere can't!
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  5. amusicsite

    amusicsite dn ʎɐʍ sᴉɥ┴ Staff Member

    I turn mine off whenever I'm not using it.
  6. MontyVeda

    MontyVeda Active Geek

    does a sleeping/hibernating computer use much less power than an idle one?
  7. drummerbod

    drummerbod Active Geek

    Southampton - UK
    Definitely. PCs in the last few years will use a couple of watts instead of 80+
  8. andyfraser

    andyfraser Active Geek

    Swindon, Wilts
    I only use my desktop at weekends now, and even then some weeks only on Saturdays, so that gets turned off when I'm done.

    I spend most of my time using my Chromebook. That gets turned off because it does use a small but noticeable amount of battery when it's asleep.
  9. BoforsGun

    BoforsGun Über Geek

    In my geekier years the PC was never off (bar crashes and odd reboot). BUt now it's off most days.

    Does anyone know how much power they use when on but doing anyhting? I keep meaning to monitor mine.

    I do think more about the planet in my older age. Just replaced, nearly, all my bulbs with LED ones in the house.
  10. amusicsite

    amusicsite dn ʎɐʍ sᴉɥ┴ Staff Member

    depends on the computer but probably on par with leaving a low energy light bulb on all the time.
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  11. drummerbod

    drummerbod Active Geek

    Southampton - UK
    60watts plus depnding in CPU\GFX\peripherals
  12. beanz

    beanz Staff Member Staff Member

    With my base units, if I'm going to be away from them over an hour, I'll often shut them down. Different with my laptop which, after switching it on in the morning, gets suspended by closing the lid when I take a break or am in transit, so it only gets properly turned on and off once a day. I don't tend to leave it in hibernation overnight though.

    I wonder whether, as battery technology and the 'suspend' state power-demand of devices improves, people will become less likely to ever fully shut down mobile devices like laptops?
  13. I wonder if we are using the same terminology ...?

    When I use the word 'hibernate' in this context, I mean saving an image of the laptop's state to disk and then it switching off. That means it isn't consuming any power at all. It comes back up quicker than booting, because it only has to restore that dumped state from disk.

    PS I suspect that memory leaks etc. can eventually cause problems with hibernation, and some updates only get applied on a reboot, so I shut the laptop down and power it back up once every few weeks to give it a fresh start.
  14. amusicsite

    amusicsite dn ʎɐʍ sᴉɥ┴ Staff Member

    Not quite true...


    If you and wake your computer with anything other than the power button then there is a good chance the usb hub is powered, wifi and network powered too if you have wake on lan enabled.
  15. I use the power button to wake it, and wake on LAN is disabled.
  16. EddyP

    EddyP Well-Known Geek

    My laptop is always put to sleep, but never shut off completely. I would never just leave it on, as my laptop in its current state would be dead fairly soon. Does anyone know if it consumes less power in sleep state?
  17. MontyVeda

    MontyVeda Active Geek

    The monitor will power down so that'll be a good chunk of power saved.

    As predicted, my 'power down' regime on my new PC lasted a matter of days and like all my others, just gets the bi-weekly reboot if it's lucky.
  18. SatNavSaysStraightOn

    SatNavSaysStraightOn Well-Known Geek

    I always turn mine off. I hear it when it is asleep or hibernating (which I have disabled as an option now) and have never had any issues with life. The only thing I have seen it affect is the life of the battery, not the machine itself.

    My last laptop died at 4 years old because the surge protector it was on didn't work when telephone line was hit by lightening. The LAN cable didn't go through the surge protector, doh. The router also died, it was also on the surge protector for mains, but not for the telephone line going into it... that laptop was the one we took on our 12 month tour, so it had spend 12 months of its life in a pannier on a bike!

    Prior to that, the laptops I had all reached a grand old age. I turn everything off by default and when I go away, I still unplug things from the wall. So does my husband now! :whistling: I was on holiday for the lightening strike, he was the one who was last at home and left everything plugged in...
  19. MontyVeda

    MontyVeda Active Geek

    typical bloody man! :facepalm:
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  20. Nigelnaturist

    Nigelnaturist Active Geek

    My Quad Core used about 230W on idle, this is with 3 1TB 3.5" H.D. one 1TB 2.5" GTX 560Ti graphics card, 4 8cm case fans one cpu fan (all blue), the cpu was O.C. from 2.6 to 3.2GHz, it was either a sleep or not on when not in use (usually asleep).
    The current AMD x3 Athlon 455 (unlocked to a Athlon x4, though given the name of Phenom x4 but with out L3 cache so its not really a Phenom), is much the same but it on O.C to 4.2GHz., thats 100% of the time no power saving set up A.T.M. it will be getting an FX-8350-70 when funds allow.
    This new set up though actually slower than my Intel system, renders quicker due to the faster DDR3 RAM, so what I lose on one hand I gain on the other, though some things like 3D modelling or moving around in the 3D space is a bit sluggish.

    For the record, sleep reduces power to most components, but keeps things on, so it should be an almost instant wake up, hibernate actually writes the current state to disk and then shuts down, (though I believe there is a hybrid version), this is why laptops do it when they get low on power, and if ever there is a power cut when in hibernate on a desk top, it should by rights come back to the point it was saved, in sleep mode a power cut would involve losing any unsaved work and a reboot usually with a warning about windows not shutting down properly, though not had that with windows 10, though any unsaved work is lost. Suspect its wrong as coretemp only shows 3.71GHz

    Screen grab showing B55 @ 4.13GHz